| Andaelas | » #385520 Tuesday June 23, 2009 at 21:38 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Ornalis: I could see a primitive tribe using the claws off of various beasts, preserved and strapped to their hands maybe. From a Historical perspective this is incredibly rare, and in fact I have never seen an instance where any pre-medieval culture did this. Claw weapons simply don't provide any range and in a time before the understanding of bacteria and infection even a cut or nick could get you killed or force the tribe to take care of you as you got better it would be suicide and bring hardship on the tribe. Claws and teeth are latched onto sticks and used as spear but never as anything close combat orientated. I mentioned pre-medieval culture because ninjas supposedly used a variety of hand claw devices for things like close combat defense, climbing stonework, and as grappling hooks for repelling. So much of Ninja lore is myth though it's impossible to say how much any of that was used. the only other culture to use a fist design like that was the Indian culture which had a variety of very nifty and gnarly punching (or "push") daggers which was meant to push through hardened leather and chain mail with relative ease. Some of which called Scissor Katars actually... well perhaps it's better to show then to tell? Before: http://www.ancientarms.biz/catalog/3kattarsilver_kencj.jpg After: http://www.gnwtc.com/wea032.JPG That occurred when the pressure from impact caused the handle bar to push forward. Nasty, and effective, hard to recover from that sort of wound. --
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| Paks | » #385552 Tuesday June 23, 2009 at 23:49 | |
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I believe that clawed gauntlets were used in addition to katars in India as well, but I can't recall where I saw that. Will have to dig a bit.
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| Kaug | » #385567 Wednesday June 24, 2009 at 06:24 | |
The new Eclipse |
Sword are just slightly longer daggers and both are 1H so they should just be merged imo
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| Cuchulain | » #385573 Wednesday June 24, 2009 at 07:09 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Paks: I believe that clawed gauntlets were used in addition to katars in India as well, but I can't recall where I saw that. Will have to dig a bit. EDIT: huh.. interetsting.. wiki apparently contradicts what I thought heh. --
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| Cuchulain edited this message on Wednesday June 24, 2009 at 09:37 | ||
| Ornalis | » #385595 Wednesday June 24, 2009 at 09:15 | |
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I wasn't going for perfect historical accuracy, Andaelas ... :) I was going for "sounds reasonable enough for a fantasy game" ... :) I think I've heard of the Indian claw thing ... bakh nagh or something like that? And apparently I even got the spelling right (well, one of the spellings ... :), since Wikipedia managed to pull it up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagh_nakh --
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| alfonzzo | » #385691 Wednesday June 24, 2009 at 15:57 | |
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With so many 1h swords being so massive, I always thought they looked a bit out of place on a rogue. I think Axe is a natural choice for the ultimate melee combatant. I do think the change was necessary. They really struggled with Ulduar itemization, and a bit more consolidation might allow them to spend more time getting each item right. |
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| Scarlet | » #404112 Tuesday September 8, 2009 at 07:00 | |
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As I've said to people quite a bit, although a bit late for this thread. It has everything to do about giving shaman access to swords would be bad for healy swords, than giving them access to dps swords. You add shamans able to use healing swords, and other classes are going to want to get access to the healing weapon they don't have access to, which then would complicate casters as well since they do not have access to all casterish weapons, and if you give priests and druids access to the weapons, then the other casters would want access. Although they could have fixed all of this by changing a deep enhance talent to allow access to swords, but I have the feeling that seemed to be meh to Blizz. --
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