| Sparkfist | #343025 Friday November 14, 2008 at 00:20 | |
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Lets start a thred and add them when we find them.
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| Arkhain | #343027 Friday November 14, 2008 at 00:53 | |
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Here is a list of quest reward blue cloth pieces in Wrath. There's not a ton of data yet on where some of the top-level items are, but it's worth a gander to compare. One thing to note is that none of these have more than two 'pure' DPS stats, like haste, SD, crit, hit, etc, and no sockets. This means that your raid pieces, boasting multiple DPS stats, set bonuses, and sockets, can still be superior for pure damage. |
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| karbynna | #343028 Friday November 14, 2008 at 02:15 | |
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Let's go DE mats!!! Now the question is, what should my second profession be, I still haven't figured that out. |
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| Hutch | #343384 Monday November 17, 2008 at 07:41 | |
TROGDOR the BURNiNATOR! |
I had to go tailoring for the magic carpet flying mount. :o)
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| Piku | #343407 Monday November 17, 2008 at 09:56 | |
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quote: Originally posted by karbynna: Let's go DE mats!!! Now the question is, what should my second profession be, I still haven't figured that out. Karby, go mining if you'd like to make some gold, or go herbalism (and of course hit me up for potions/elixirs/flasks) if you'd like to save gold while raiding. Unless of course if you've got an alt that already has herbalism, in that case take Alchemy. If you're looking for a profession for something interesting, then engineering has all sorts of neat and interesting toys (especially if like to PvP). You can still use explosives in PvP right? --
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| Arkhain | #343438 Monday November 17, 2008 at 12:11 | |
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On the flip, Inscription and JC are relatively cheap ways to get great stat boosts now that LW is gone. | |
| karbynna | #343492 Monday November 17, 2008 at 14:51 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Piku: quote: Originally posted by karbynna: Let's go DE mats!!! Now the question is, what should my second profession be, I still haven't figured that out. Karby, go mining if you'd like to make some gold, or go herbalism (and of course hit me up for potions/elixirs/flasks) if you'd like to save gold while raiding. Unless of course if you've got an alt that already has herbalism, in that case take Alchemy. If you're looking for a profession for something interesting, then engineering has all sorts of neat and interesting toys (especially if like to PvP). You can still use explosives in PvP right? I'm mainly looking for something to help me boost my stats as best as possible. I just need to decide which one I want. I have to alts with herbalism, one of which I just haven't had time to switch to another professions, probably to mining. As for engineering, I haven't had a char with that in like 3 years...maybe if explosives worked in arena? As Arkhain said, I'll prob pick JC or inscription. |
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| Boshrankus | #343500 Monday November 17, 2008 at 16:38 | |
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Piku! Most of the stuff so far (up to lvl 74) I have been selling/de. I will say I did get one upgrade from a instance quest- think it was Azjol. Nice caster haste cloak that slightly beats the one from ZA. |
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| judit | #343530 Tuesday November 18, 2008 at 01:32 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Boshrankus: Piku! Most of the stuff so far (up to lvl 74) I have been selling/de. I will say I did get one upgrade from a instance quest- think it was Azjol. Nice caster haste cloak that slightly beats the one from ZA. Bosh I think that's one of the 3 Nexus quests - but yeah, that was also what I noticed, quite sadly - my ZA cloak has just been replaced. Karby - I have two tailors, 2 herbalists, 1 enchanter and 1 alchemist and an inscriptionist in the making. What I've heard from many people is that they were rather disappointed by Inscriptions and wished they hadn't given up on their previous profession for it. So whilst I do think it's a nice profession, I thought it may be useful for you to know what others say. At least inscription is easy to level though :) To say something on topic - I am not really sure what to think of the cloth items from WOTLK so far - is it just me, or will it really be so much more difficult to get items that have gem slots on them? I've also noticed that for the most part, you get to choose between hit, crit and haste (before you go into the actual t7 content) - whilst I understand that you can't have it all on every single item, I really don't know what I should look at as my priority. Do I want to stack up hit and haste and then crit, or much like in TBC, go with hit crit and then haste? So confused :( |
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| Arkhain | #343533 Tuesday November 18, 2008 at 02:58 | |
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quote: What I've heard from many people is that they were rather disappointed by Inscriptions and wished they hadn't given up on their previous profession for it. Compared to BC tradeskills, BC inscription was a tremendous loss of personal benefit. In Wrath, though, with most tradeskill BoPs going endangered or extinct, the shoulder enchants from Inscription make it handy on the level of most other tradeskills, like JC or enchanting. Compared to the huge effect Jewelcrafting has had on stats and gear selection, Inscription is underwhelming, but saving a month off of the Sons of Hodir rep grind and getting an extra 37 spellpower (like ring enchants and BOP gems) for it isn't such a bad thing after all. As far as gems slots go, there'll be fewer items with gem slots on them this time around. In BC, an item with slots was almost always flat better than an equally itemized one without; to prevent that you'll see mostly items with no - sometimes one - socket until the higher end. For stats, I'd prioritize spellpower, hit, crit, then haste. Personal taste from a leveling perspective, though -- other caster classes' mileage may vary. |
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| judit | #343534 Tuesday November 18, 2008 at 04:34 | |
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Originally posted by Arkhain: quote: For stats, I'd prioritize spellpower, hit, crit, then haste. Personal taste from a leveling perspective, though -- other caster classes' mileage may vary. Well, spellpower was a given :) and the hitcap too - however, crit and haste confuse me. I can only speak from a warlock's perspective here since my mage is only 21 and have very little raiding experience with my shadow priest, but maybe this will be food for thought: Out of curiosity, I went and checked out the warlocks from Nihilum / SK Gaming - just to see what kind of stats they went for and I found out the following: - either ridiculous amounts of hit (320-340-ish if I remember correctly) or very low (~150) - no crit gear at all (not even when specced deep down in destro) - tons and tons of haste (450-500) regardless of spec Now, pre-WotlK, I started building a semi-decent (semi being the key word here) haste set and got my haste up to 220 on trash - and I did notice that despite the fact that I lost crit and even more so hit, my damage went up significantly on trash. Before the xpac, I read up on the benefits of haste as well as talked to quite a few casters I know, but it seemed even then that it's only useful once a certain amount of crit has been acquired. Now I look at all these guys' gear and I don't see crit anywhere. This leads to the question - is haste the 'new' cool that will force us to consider re-prioritising? Make no mistake Arkhain, I am not criticising your choices - especially not because normally that would be my priority order as well, I am just wondering whether anyone else has had similar experiences with haste or read something about it that might be useful. :) |
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| kaeble | #343542 Tuesday November 18, 2008 at 06:13 | |
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It depends on your spec really. Frost I would go hit,spellpower, haste, and crit. Crit doesn't really help out as much since it takes so much of it to help while you need less haste for an increase. Frostfire bolts and deep fire builds are going to need more crit because of hot streak, burnouts, and ignites. For those builds I would go with hit, crit, spellpower, then haste last. The biggest thing with those two is the ignite munching. You don't want to overwrite one ignite with another. Also trash dps isn't as important as boss dps. That is where you want to look
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| Arkhain | #343601 Tuesday November 18, 2008 at 14:39 | |
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Haste is much more powerful against a raid boss than for leveling. When your mana is less of a concern (Replenishment, a fight worth potioning for, etc) then spending 1% more mana for 1% more DPS is well worth it. Compared to Crit, Haste is 50% better at giving you raw damage from chain casting, requiring 16 (32) rating against Crit's 22 (44) rating. Destro in particular has few talents to necessitate Crit like other casters do (Nature's Grace, Burnout, etc) so stacking Haste works quite well. If you catch a raid caster in 150 hit, it's probably safe to assume they're dropping hit for other stats for heroics and farming. |
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