| Erywin | #307135 Wednesday June 18, 2008 at 08:32 | |
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http://wotlk.wikidot.com/hunter Check out the abilities tab and look at the end of the Survival Section. Here is it copy/paste: Survival * Raptor Strike (Rank 10) - 240 mana, 275 additional damage. * Raptor Strike (Rank 10) - 300 mana, 335 additional damage. * Counterattack (Rank 5) - 215 mana, 240 damage. * Counterattack (Rank 6) - 265 mana, 285 damage. * Immolation Trap (Rank 7) - 605 mana, 1540 fire damage over 15 sec. * Immolation Trap (Rank 8) - 750 mana, 1885 fire damage over 15 sec. * Explosive Trap (Rank 5) - 1350 mana, 434 to 556 fire damage, 740 fire damage over 20 sec. * Explosive Trap (Rank 6) - 1700 mana, 523 to 571 fire damage, 900 fire damage over 20 sec. * Trueshot Aura (Rank 5) - 190 attack power. * Trueshot Aura (Rank 6) - 225 attack power. Either this is a major talent change or a bug in the data mining... Cheers, E --
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| Alisia | #307136 Wednesday June 18, 2008 at 08:40 | |
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They also show wyvern sting in the marksman tree. if you're getting things from the same site I am. There's also an interesting note in the patch changes quote: Camouflage (Level 68, 5 min cooldown) - You Camouflage, causing you to blend in with your surroundings. Instantly removes all physical and spell debuffs, and you fade into an improved invisibility state. Camouflage will break after the you deal damage. Lasts until cancelled. Which sounds rather too good to be true. --
Ghostcrawler: "Rogue talents are hard because the class is ultimately very mathy." Ghostcrawler is secretly Barbie? |
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| Quinnaria | #307141 Wednesday June 18, 2008 at 09:03 | |
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I can see making a Survival Build, that incorporates TSA with your new ten points - data-mining that build might be what is causing it.
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| Troll | #307145 Wednesday June 18, 2008 at 09:11 | |
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You can go here for many of the new talent trees in WotLK alpha, but hunter trees are not updated yet. =/ http://war-tools.darlinganime.com/index.php?t=deathknight --
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| Erywin | #307214 Wednesday June 18, 2008 at 14:24 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Alisia: They also show wyvern sting in the marksman tree. if you're getting things from the same site I am. There's also an interesting note in the patch changes quote: Camouflage (Level 68, 5 min cooldown) - You Camouflage, causing you to blend in with your surroundings. Instantly removes all physical and spell debuffs, and you fade into an improved invisibility state. Camouflage will break after the you deal damage. Lasts until cancelled. Which sounds rather too good to be true. ZOMG Cloak of Skill + Vanish? O.o I WANTS IT I DOES!!! --
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| Alisia | #307303 Wednesday June 18, 2008 at 20:38 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Erywin: ZOMG Cloak of Skill + Vanish? O.o I WANTS IT I DOES!!! And, the return of the shadow-meld aimed shot --
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| Erywin | #307305 Wednesday June 18, 2008 at 20:55 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Alisia: quote: Originally posted by Erywin: ZOMG Cloak of Skill + Vanish? O.o I WANTS IT I DOES!!! And, the return of the shadow-meld aimed shot !!! I hadn't thought of that :D So does invisibility mean that we can move as well? Ghetto Stealth every 5 mins? Lol sounds like Blizz is turning us into ranged rogues in mail O.o Cheers, E --
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| beleg | #307309 Wednesday June 18, 2008 at 21:31 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Alisia: They also show wyvern sting in the marksman tree. if you're getting things from the same site I am. There's also an interesting note in the patch changes quote: Camouflage (Level 68, 5 min cooldown) - You Camouflage, causing you to blend in with your surroundings. Instantly removes all physical and spell debuffs, and you fade into an improved invisibility state. Camouflage will break after the you deal damage. Lasts until cancelled. Which sounds rather too good to be true. from what i see of the description it only breaks once you deal damage...i'm guessing it will break when damage is dealt to you or possibly when you are "spotted" but those are not included. it looks like a really cool buff to hunters for pvp. i just hope it doesnt turn out like druidcoil did and get nerfed or just scratched altoghether>.> (instant cast, my @$$) |
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| Alisia | #307337 Thursday June 19, 2008 at 03:46 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Erywin: !!! I hadn't thought of that :D So does invisibility mean that we can move as well? Ghetto Stealth every 5 mins? Lol sounds like Blizz is turning us into ranged rogues in mail O.o Cheers, E Invisibility is vaguely better than stealth. While both are stopped by warlocks and their paranoia, invisibility can only be seen by mages who are invisible. --
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| Fenrys | #307352 Thursday June 19, 2008 at 07:20 | |
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| Alisia | #307355 Thursday June 19, 2008 at 07:36 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Fenrys: Not quite true. Locks do have see invisible. I know my brain said "oh there's see invisible" but somehow that didn't make it to paper. --
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| Alaunt | #307369 Thursday June 19, 2008 at 08:51 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Alisia: quote: Originally posted by Erywin: ZOMG Cloak of Skill + Vanish? O.o I WANTS IT I DOES!!! And, the return of the shadow-meld aimed shot Not sure about that. If the ability uses existing invisibility mechanics you cannot see any other mobs other than invisible ones( or ones that can see invisible) which would mean you couldn't target a non-invisible mob. The mana-cell daily for SSO actually uses the invisibility mechanic for its phased effect (that's what the world looks like while invisible). If you are curious grab some potions of invisibility and check it out. |
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| Alisia | #307374 Thursday June 19, 2008 at 09:14 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Alaunt: Not sure about that. If the ability uses existing invisibility mechanics you cannot see any other mobs other than invisible ones( or ones that can see invisible) which would mean you couldn't target a non-invisible mob. The mana-cell daily for SSO actually uses the invisibility mechanic for its phased effect (that's what the world looks like while invisible). If you are curious grab some potions of invisibility and check it out. AImed shot on mages? --
Ghostcrawler: "Rogue talents are hard because the class is ultimately very mathy." Ghostcrawler is secretly Barbie? |
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| Alaunt | #307703 Friday June 20, 2008 at 22:37 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Alisia: AImed shot on mages? Only on the invisible ones, and they can see you as well so you have to get them before they sheep you (which would break invisibility for both the mage and hunter). |
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| Paks | #307729 Saturday June 21, 2008 at 04:03 | |
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You forget Hunter's Mark, methinks. I'm not positive, but it should allow a hunter to see the marked individual even while Camo'd. Otherwise, there's not much point to it from a PvP perspective, and as a PvE tool, it's not much different/better than Feign except for the debuff removal. --
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