| Dalamaris | #301819 Monday May 19, 2008 at 22:46 | |
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Still working on my war :P Currently she is 65 swords spec going for an arms/fury raiding build. Slatted to be mace or sword spec'd for bs and talent wise. My question is can anyone give me a good 2h arms/fury build that is raid dps and pvp? And a build that is 1h arms/fury? And are these builds viable and what nought for raids and pvp? Was thinks mace arms/fury for pvp but I lose raid dps, with swords I keep that dps and loose some pvp ownage. Thoughts? --
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| Catteeka | #301891 Tuesday May 20, 2008 at 09:56 | |
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The closest thing to a PVE/PVP hybrid I can come up with would be this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0xdGbogbdbZVxzV0gR Note that it isn't going to be optimal for either. You're lacking TM and blood craze for PVP; flurry, imp. HS, and a few points in 2H spec for PVE. You'll lose at least a good 10% damage from that alone, more from using a mace. I've used this build for pure PVE and liked it: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LI0xzAioM0dZVx0V0gRc There are a few things that depend on your raid makeup or preference. Put the points from BF into flurry if there's already a warrior with BF in your raid (not very likely), and take UW instead of imp. DS (or 2 imp. DS and 3 UW if you have to help the tanks out) if you don't have a warlock using CoR; if you do however, it's your responsibility to keep DS up. You could also take imp. disciplines instead of imp. intercept, but I don't see much point because that'll only give you 2 extra recklessness...es during a 4-hour raid IF you're using them every single time they're available. But the extra 4 sec might give you more DPS depending on how much you actually use intercept. You also NEED a swing timer addon. It's a requirement to time slams properly (immediately after an autoattack) since it resets your swing timer. I use Quartz. Your attack cycle should look something like this (assuming rage is available): autoattack, slam, MS, autoattack, slam, WW, autoattack, slam, MS, autoattack, slam, autoattack, slam, MS, autoattack, slam, WW, etc. You cannot mindlessly spam attacks like you can as fury and still do decent DPS. You also really need a shaman for WF or you're probably going to be very rage-starved. Also note that WF will make your threat very spiky with a 2H. --
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| Catteeka edited this message on Wednesday May 21, 2008 at 04:45 | ||
| Gen | #302051 Tuesday May 20, 2008 at 23:00 | |
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Catt's second build is the primary PvE arms DPS build. Honestly, we don't hybrid well. You wouldn't think three points would make such a difference but man... If I had to choose, I'd say the second build Catt posted is the slightly better overall for being both. I prefer Tactical and Second wind for PvP, but somethings gonna get cut. --
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| Banquo | #302275 Wednesday May 21, 2008 at 20:15 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Gen: Honestly, we don't hybrid well. You wouldn't think three points would make such a difference but man... QFT :( essentially, you'll want second wind, piercing howl, and tactical mastery (ranked in order of personal preference, your mileage may vary) whenever you're pvping up some serious business. Thankfully, if you're running with companions, and after you've gotten a decent chunk of survivability gear (i'm usually hanging out with rogue/paladin) lacking those things don't get in your way as much. But they still will. Especially druids. I'd rather hack my face off than try to solo kill a good kiter/shifter without PH. And there are no 1h MS/deep arms builds. ever. edit: Also, I have to say, I have never specced for blood craze. and imp slam is pretty damn fun. get ahead of someone who's hamstrung, and whip up a slam or two as they pass by. --
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| Dalamaris | #302960 Monday May 26, 2008 at 16:00 | |
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Well I made a sword build that should be good for pve, I read on the elitistjerk link here to arms war dps that sword spec was alittle better than axe spec. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0xbAbog0dZVx0V0gRc Think im shooting myself in the foot rage wise with no anger management but I can easily take 1 outa imp op for that. edit: Also not sure if i should go sword or mace with my bs. which is better for pvp? and if so is the other spec a possilibity but not as good? Thoughts? --
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| Dalamaris edited this message on Thursday May 29, 2008 at 17:25 | ||
| Aaetov | #305964 Tuesday June 10, 2008 at 16:53 | |
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Maces spec is widely considered the best for PvP, however, Sword is also see as a close second. Now when it comes to PvE... Sword spec is seen as the best option and Mace spec is seen as the worst option. If it is a PvP/PvE friendly option you are after, sword is hands down your best bet. |
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| Rabid | #306373 Thursday June 12, 2008 at 15:31 | |
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I have to agree with Aaetov, if you're going to be doing both (pvp/raiding) swords is the way to go. Pure pvp mace is wonderful, but all its benefits are gone as soon as you get to a mob thats immune to stun. |
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| Dalamaris | #306727 Saturday June 14, 2008 at 17:44 | |
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Ok so I got quartz, how do I make so the swing timer resets every time I swing and not just on a cleave, hs, or slam?
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| Paks | #306736 Saturday June 14, 2008 at 20:43 | |
YOU'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME FRUIT VENDOR! |
There's a specific and separate bar for swing timer that you need to enable.
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| Dalamaris | #306741 Saturday June 14, 2008 at 21:42 | |
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Feral Dr00d! |
Really? I only saw one. EDIT: Also how do I get the swing timer to visible there without it counting the secs that I havent attacked? Right now it only appears when I slam,hs, or cleave. --
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| Paks | #306756 Sunday June 15, 2008 at 00:04 | |
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YOU'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME FRUIT VENDOR! |
Hm. Yanno, I'm having a time getting it to work for me too. I know it works for melee, I had it running for my Paladin (and it drove me nuts too). Anyone else know? --
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| Dalamaris | #306803 Sunday June 15, 2008 at 19:33 | |
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And quartz seems to be the only swing timer : \
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| Aorn | #326888 Tuesday September 9, 2008 at 10:04 | |
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There's a seperate part of quartz that's the swing timer. By default it's white and simple sits underneath but still connected to, the main castbar. I changed mine to silver, and moved it UNDER the castbar, so I can see my swingtimer on Pol, while I wait for slams to finish, etc. Or for timing WW/MS burst on swing. It's really HARD to see, until you move them away from each other, as they're made to sorta "slot together" >> Hope this helps --
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