| Sparkfist | #296211 Tuesday April 22, 2008 at 08:36 | |
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Im new to the healer world and with my pally being a 70 now id like to get him in to some raids .. only problem i have is i cant heal thru heroics. I find my problem being i cant heal thru aoe dmg or 3+ targets at the same time. Is there a trick to that as a pally or is my gear lacking and i just cant keep up till i gear up... im sitting around 800 healing. If you armory me and laugh at my gear:) its because i leveld to 70 prot and havent been able to replace some of the gear yet hehe Lemme know what i should be aiming for to hit places like kara/grull being the lowest level raids. i personally dont think my 800 healing is cutting it because i notice with a potion of healing or what ever its called it does take alot of stress off my fingers mashing holylight/flash of light. --
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| Paks | #296228 Tuesday April 22, 2008 at 10:05 | |
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You want to be shooting for 1000+ for KZ entry, though that's not a hard and fast rule. Also, the more spell crit, the better, as that's our mana regen. One of the nice things for pallies is that there's no competition with other classes for your healing gear with few exceptions like rings/necks/trinkets, and your +Heal ramps up really quickly. --
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| Mandarus | #296252 Tuesday April 22, 2008 at 12:00 | |
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Hey Sparkface, I went into Kara with about +800 healz and managed pretty well (uh, you may have even been there for my first time back with SnB). Your primary issue will probably be mana, so pack some pots and line up some lower level FoL/HL options (see below). A few general tips that’ll help get you through any raid: *Get a clicky mod (Clique or Healbot) and give yourself some modifiers for lower level spells. Healing via mouseover on your raid UI makes the whole situation way more managable and makes you way more efficient. Personally, I use Clique + Grid (was using healbot for a while) and assign FoL (four ranks below max) to CTRL-Left Click and max FoL to Alt-Left Click (same order for Holy Light, just Right Click and maybe 2 levels lower than max on the downranked spell, I'll have to look). I keep Cleanse on Shift-Left Click and Blessing of Freedom/Protection on Shift-Right Click (depending on the situation). *Use FoL with extreme prejudice. It’s about as close to AoE healing as we get since you can cast it amongst many raid members in a matter of seconds, and it is wonderful for single-target maintenance heals. This will become more true as your +Healing increases and FoL becomes more effective. *If you’re in a hard-hitting situation (solo-healing a MT or similar situations), wait a moment for the heal-target to take a bit of damage and then start with a Holy Light. That’ll get your Light’s Grace buff going while you cast maintenance FoLs until your next big (and now .5secs faster) heal is needed. *It’s all about anticipation. This is true for all healing classes, but us especially since we have no HoTs to set-and-forget or AoE healing to whip out. Starting to cast a heal on someone is like an investment, so choose wisely. There’s obviously lots more advice out there, but this is what I would’ve benefited from the most when I first started. -Joseph |
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| Alissah | #296269 Tuesday April 22, 2008 at 12:55 | |
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*smacks Paks around* Zomg, don't listen to that tankadin noob. It has been a vastly long debated discussion about what was better spell crit of MP5 EVEN back when spell crit was 100% return. It's my opinion that spell crit is not nearly worth it these days by itself. You need to have a hefty amount of MP5 as well. It's nice to get a mixture if possible, however, as a pally healer myself, if I have to choose I tend to go for MP5 unless it has a significantly higher amount of healing on it with just spell crit, also I am quite fond of a little bit of both. So be sure while you're gathering gear to look for pieces with both on them (even if they're MAIL!). Also, if you're looking to go into the raiding scene soonish, you are really shooting for upwards of 1400+ healing, granted you start getting most of that gear through Kara, but these days you can get it just through heroic'ing through the badge vendors. Hell I know most of MY gear came from badge vendors. Also, it really depends on HOW you heal. Which has also been debated in another post as to how you gear. If you are a flash healing spammer then spell crit may be more important to you than MP5 (at least the flash heal spammers tend to be the ones with the high spell crit and little to no MP5), whereas if you're using Holy Light, you still need a decent amount of spell crit, but you want a ton of MP5 as well. Also it helps if you're an alchemist (i.e. see the healing alchemist stone from SSO rep). Anyway just a few gearing tips. While you're getting to 1400 though, you want to focus on healing. Once you're at 1400, that's when you start worrying about getting more pieces with MP5 and crit. |
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| Sparkfist | #296284 Tuesday April 22, 2008 at 13:46 | |
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Sacrafice to the Loot God. |
Awsome advice ill look in to thoes mods and see if i can work with anything. another question is i cant heal heroics well unless im with a group thats rather well geard and seeing that the dailys only give me a few badges a day is there some good quest healer loot that can put me to 1000 healing befor i raid? im haveing a hard time getting the + heal becasue my lack of skill/gear atm. Leveling prot made arranging my spell bars a pain to be holy and buffs :) --
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| Alissah | #296288 Tuesday April 22, 2008 at 14:14 | |
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Pick up Pally Power, it is another addon that will get rid of you having to put your pally blessings on your bars at all. You just have to set the mod up, which is really simple, then click under the class of the players in your group to set the buff you want them to have. Once you've done that all you had to do is click a box and they get the buff. Also, because I actually read Joseph post this time. I have to strongly disagree with FoL spam :P. I think you're more effective downranking Holy Light if you're going to be having Lights grace. 2 (so .5 seconds longer than FoL) seconds with a larger crit rate -and- more healing typically depending on which downrank you are using. Granted it IS a bit more mana and if you have to raid heal alot, then yes, I would use that spell for raid healing, but as long as you keep your lights grace rolling, for bigger damage coverage, Holy Light is just far superior. So, you can heal as Joseph suggested, Holy light only on the Tank, flash on the raid as long as you have time. A lot of the time you don't even have time to raid heal if your tank is taking a great deal of damage. (Sorry as I said this has been discussed in another post, one coin, two sides) Also, if you can... it is FAR easier for a pally healer to heal a pally tank than any other tank typically. When a pally is tanking, it is far less likely there will be any other raid or party damage taken which makes it a ton easier on a paladin since it's draining as is to heal more than one person much less 3-4. |
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| Mandarus | #296293 Tuesday April 22, 2008 at 14:21 | |
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MPally (the andarus is silent) |
quote: Originally posted by Alissah: Also, because I actually read Joseph post this time. I have to strongly disagree with FoL spam :P. I think you're more effective downranking Holy Light if you're going to be having Lights grace. 2 (so .5 seconds longer than FoL) seconds with a larger crit rate -and- more healing typically depending on which downrank you are using. Granted it IS a bit more mana and if you have to raid heal alot, then yes, I would use that spell for raid healing, but as long as you keep your lights grace rolling, for bigger damage coverage, Holy Light is just far superior. So, you can heal as Joseph suggested, Holy light only on the Tank, flash on the raid as long as you have time. A lot of the time you don't even have time to raid heal if your tank is taking a great deal of damage. (Sorry as I said this has been discussed in another post, one coin, two sides). You and I agree more than you think. FoL for raid healing (as a general rule), but get the Light's Grace rolling early and often. <3 |
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| Sparkfist | #296296 Tuesday April 22, 2008 at 14:25 | |
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Sacrafice to the Loot God. |
So basicaly my 5 man dreams of uber heals are shot if the tank/cc cant keep things undercontroll :) well id like a bit more explination on the downranking i dont see how dropping a level will save mygroup if im allready haveing problems keeping people alive with my big heals... Manna hasnt been a problem yet but i havent made it to any of the longer boss fights haha
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| Pantzeri | #296314 Tuesday April 22, 2008 at 15:10 | |
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Pantzeri - Respec Addicted Paladin Pulsaria - Terribad Fire Spec'd mage |
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| Mandarus | #296317 Tuesday April 22, 2008 at 15:13 | |
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MPally (the andarus is silent) |
quote: Originally posted by Sparkface:well id like a bit more explination on the downranking i dont see how dropping a level will save mygroup if im allready haveing problems keeping people alive with my big heals... Manna hasnt been a problem yet but i havent made it to any of the longer boss fights haha Y’know; I don’t want to fill your head with that nonsense right now. In simple terms, I suggest using a downranked FoL/HL for AoE damage situations because it’s a low cost (sometimes nearly free) and relative quick way to get a few people to a reasonable threshold. That’s how I roll, and it’s been working for me (even at +800 heals). You shouldn’t be the MH in KZ in your current condition, so it’ll help you be a consistent supporting healer. If you aren’t having mana issues, don’t sweat it (but, I think you will). It all comes down to a given situation. If they’re taking heavy damage quick and you’re low on mana, I’d be busting out downranked Holy Lights fast. If you’re helping top off some folks taking AoE damage, I’d be popping the top of some ice-cold downranked FoLs and passing ‘em around. What I really want you to come away with is an efficient interface to heal with. It really can make a ton of difference. |
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| Mandarus | #296320 Tuesday April 22, 2008 at 15:17 | |
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MPally (the andarus is silent) |
quote: Originally posted by Sparkfist: another question is i cant heal heroics well unless im with a group thats rather well geard and seeing that the dailys only give me a few badges a day is there some good quest healer loot that can put me to 1000 healing befor i raid? im haveing a hard time getting the + heal becasue my lack of skill/gear atm. Leveling prot made arranging my spell bars a pain to be holy and buffs :) Which heroics can't you heal? All heroics are not equal, y'know. (and, yeah, what Alissah said about PallyPower. If you don't have it, get it.) |
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