| Darckence | #295486 Thursday April 17, 2008 at 13:00 | |
Cloth: Not just for Paladins |
quote: Originally posted by Rafiky: just to note something from earlier in the thread once you enter combat, hots will generate agro to whoever cast them. While they're not doing any healing it's like casting a buff and mobs don't like that. This functionality also changed at some point (and was never documented in patch notes). Back when RQ was learning BWL (can't remember exactly when this was, time-wise) HoTs cast out of combat definitely did not cause aggro to the healer even if the target subsequently entered combat. In TBC, however, regardless of whether healer and target were out of combat when the heal was cast, even if the HoT tick does no healing, it still causes threat to be generated by the healer. Not sure exactly when the change occurred (I generally erred on the side of caution and didn't allow HoTs to be cast prior to entering combat). My own story about this is when my guild was learning Vashj, our raid leader was worried about the way the MT's health dipped as he ran in on the pull. Raid Leader: Darckence, make sure the MT has a full set of HoTs up before the pull Me: Are you sure? I'm pretty sure that generates threat, and you won't be in range to MD her off me Raid Leader: Just make sure you cast out of combat, he'll be full health and you will be fine 12k aimed shot to the face during the pull :( It definitely causes threat :p --
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| Chickadee | #295788 Saturday April 19, 2008 at 06:52 | |
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The same exact thing happened to my druid recently during that initial Vashj pull. I went down so fast I didn't even know what hit me. >.<
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| Felada | #295802 Saturday April 19, 2008 at 11:45 | |
Overall Lead of Floggins |
I remember when priest had to have a macro set up to whisper their druid partner that they were fading and the druid was going to die now....
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| Toragan | #295822 Saturday April 19, 2008 at 13:04 | |
The not so serious paladin |
lol Sal. Kill da druids!
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| Kreallana | #295827 Saturday April 19, 2008 at 13:15 | |
Quantum Kittie Heavenly Healz |
I actually have the threat generated by druid HOTs on the druid sticky. I'm pretty sure I have them all listed, but might have only done one or two. If I didn't get them all - and if there's interest - I'll finish filling it out. --
Nykka, Kreallana, Krea, Rwnaella - AoC Kreallana, Enheduannah, Talwien, Ghula - WoW Nykka, Kreallana, Rwnaella, Dremmavae - WAR "my defensive skills consist primarily of running and screaming for mercy.", [Michael A. Ventrella, Arch Enemies] |
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| Sowien | #295869 Saturday April 19, 2008 at 18:49 | |
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I've been a resto druid and shaman and holy priest in end game raiding before and my priest especially, I hate paladins but working on one as a healer atm. Still love my priest the most, hands down. Although when I was Horde raiding as a resto sham was SO fun, almost gave Sowi a run for her money. |
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| Dae | #295908 Sunday April 20, 2008 at 10:15 | |
Shadow carebear >.> |
quote: Originally posted by Kreallana: I actually have the threat generated by druid HOTs on the druid sticky. I'm pretty sure I have them all listed, but might have only done one or two. If I didn't get them all - and if there's interest - I'll finish filling it out. Kre, I read that in detail a few days ago because I've been tanking a lot on my druid lately (the ability to make pugs NOT suck is a happy one) - found it fantastically helpful and informative. :) --
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| Brennith | #295918 Sunday April 20, 2008 at 12:37 | |
Furry healer supreme |
I can only compare healing with a pre-BC druid to a post-BC paladin. I prefer the paladin for 5 mans. Druid healing is more versatile, in my opinion, but my own death is swift. My paladin? He's damn near unkillable. Since I do a lot of PuGs, I need that survivability. It's got a little bit of a negative, though. I take more risks since I know I can usually survive them. It's bad when I take that risk and can't survive it. Paladin healing isn't super exciting. I prefer healing as another healer because I enjoy the complexity, but I prefer grouping as a pally healer because of the survivability. --
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| Zaddy | #296013 Monday April 21, 2008 at 07:55 | |
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Heal Sauce and Assplosions |
quote: Originally posted by Brennith: I can only compare healing with a pre-BC druid to a post-BC paladin. I prefer the paladin for 5 mans. Druid healing is more versatile, in my opinion, but my own death is swift. My paladin? He's damn near unkillable. Since I do a lot of PuGs, I need that survivability. It's got a little bit of a negative, though. I take more risks since I know I can usually survive them. It's bad when I take that risk and can't survive it. Paladin healing isn't super exciting. I prefer healing as another healer because I enjoy the complexity, but I prefer grouping as a pally healer because of the survivability. Heh, It's hard to disagree with that one. I think I've gotten pretty good at survivability as a priest, but it mostly involves not getting hit! I am teh squish! On the other hand, it does add to the complexity of a priest, which I love. There's a smaller margin for error. --
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