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New shaman buff on the PTR, 28/2/08

Fenrys
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Flametongue weapon on the offhand now procs a MS (Mortal Strike) debuff on your target.

Discuss.

P.S. Its currently broken on the PTR anyway. It gives your target +50% healing instead.
     
Mondaris
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This should explain it best. :o


Me: Ok car mechanic, I need a new transmission, it's failing.

Car Mechanic: Here's a shiny new spoiler!! Weee!

Me: ...



I will admit though, Enhancement has been seeing some love.It seems more of a cope out then anything though. Blizzard's way of fixing melee classes is to give them a ms effect.

The only thing I want is undispelable Earth Shield; Make it so if it's casted on other people its dispelable but otherwise not, They made it 30% but thats nothing when things like purge, dispel and spellsteal have no cooldown. I got sick of healing bgs along time ago when I realized that 6 out of 9 classes take a special interest in a ball spinning around me.
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  Mondaris edited this message on Thursday February 28, 2008 at 10:21  
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The Toughness change to reduce snares' durations by 50% is rather nice.

I guess giving away Mortal Strike effects is their arena rebalancing modus operandi. It's a change that lessens the focus on burst damage, though, which is something Blizzard has always favored.

Shamanistic Rage nerf, boo. At least 15 seconds is longer than 3 seconds before the Dispel.
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Tribal
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The only thing I'm worried about now is that some silly raid leader is going to ask me to "occasionally swing my mace" at the boss to "help the entire raid" :P

Gnaaaah. No more "utility", please!

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That just seems like a dumb change to me, leave warriors with mortal strike and that's it.
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quote:
Originally posted by Arkhain:
Shamanistic Rage nerf, boo. At least 15 seconds is longer than 3 seconds before the Dispel.



Link please.
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Arkhain
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Patch notes.
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Kreallana
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quote:
Originally posted by Tribal:
The only thing I'm worried about now is that some silly raid leader is going to ask me to "occasionally swing my mace" at the boss to "help the entire raid" :P

Gnaaaah. No more "utility", please!





Meh...enh shaman aid a raid already and already are hitting the boss. I doubt it would be resto or elemental asked to do such a thing. And, from what I understand, it's a reduction to healing so I'm not sure how it would assist a raid other than on things like the Council, where the bosses are receiving healing from one of the others being fought...wonder if it would even work in that scenario...if a heal did get off - it'd be nice to have it reduced....and does it stack with wounding poison and all that? Hrm...

And enh shaman needed some arena lovin. I don't think it's a g-d send...and I'm biding my time to see how it plays out...we'll see.

Edit: NM...from what I understand, they've made it a true MS now...

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  Kreallana edited this message on Friday February 29, 2008 at 12:30  
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Though about viability, the shaman doesn't actually have to switch weapon procs for it in a raid setting. I always twist and for me, it'd just be a matter of instead of hitting my twisting macro I would just manually hit flametongue totem once before I hit grace of air to put the totem down and the debuff applied; and then immediately switch back to windfury. So for 9 seconds my melee group has flametongue to apply the proc.
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They reverted it anyway. No mortal strike for us.
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Tribal
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Not only did they "take it back" but they "nerfed" it too :P

Thanks Blizzard! :P
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Originally posted by Tribal:


Not only did they "take it back" but they "nerfed" it too :P

Thanks Blizzard! :P



Huh? Do explain. How good flametongue totem be any *worse* then it was before?
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Originally posted by Kavanagh:
quote:
Originally posted by Tribal:


Not only did they "take it back" but they "nerfed" it too :P

Thanks Blizzard! :P



Huh? Do explain. How good flametongue totem be any *worse* then it was before?



It could be stacked, like the old windfury.

Yes. dual/quad-procs existed then and in theory they exist now -- just not for windfury. :P

Although I've never seen a quad-proc on FT.

*shrugs* It was the thing, for a while after WF was changed, to have both your weapons enchanted with fiery then stack FT. I actually still have those weapons in the bank... somewhere.

God I miss enhancement :(

Can't wait to see what the 80th talent will be.
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