| Kavanagh | » #283791 Tuesday February 19, 2008 at 21:54 | |
Truthiness and the American Way |
Wait, Pally Power lets you do individual exceptions? Crap. I need to investigate that.
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| Brennith | » #283796 Tuesday February 19, 2008 at 22:47 | |
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Kav, I use buffwatch for the 10 minute versions.
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| Tribal | » #283800 Tuesday February 19, 2008 at 23:22 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Kavanagh: I'm not sure if you realize how much of a hassle it is to personalize paladin buffs for every class/role in the raid, DW, but, well, it is. <> Same with every other class: one buff won't make or break the fight. :) You're absolutely right about both things. I know *nothing* of paladins or warriors or even some specs like feral druids. I would never speak about these things as if I did :) What I was doing was complaining that I get might instead of wisdom. Just like a druid friend of mine (tank) kept getting salvation. *IF* it's possible for the paladin to fix this, why not fix it? I've recently been running in raids that are missing classes I'm use to running with. For instance, the last kara raid I was in didn't have a priest. I got not SP or Fort or *gasp* Spirit. It was an absolutely smooth run ((sorry priesties!)). So not having wisdom (for instance) isn't going to kill me. Although *cough* it might kill my main tank :P Again, my argument isn't that paladins "aren't doing their job", it's "if paladins can fix this, do it." Again, I don't know or even pretend to know how paladins work so I don't know if it *can* be fixed. (although follow up posts to mine suggest that it can). quote: As for rezzing? Many UI addons (such as X-Perl Unit Frames) includes a notice that "So-and-so is rezzing this person". I'm not sure what addons you are running, but asking every rezzer in your raid to make a macro when all you need to do is download an addon is probably not gonna fly. :) Again, this was in response to someone else who doesn't want to use addons. What's easier? Asking someone to *simply* change a word in an already created macro / asking your healers to create a macro or convincing someone they really need to download a mod that will do it for them? I would argue that asking for a macro is more simple. In the upper end raids you're going to *force* people to make a macro anyway :P (OMG TEH CORE IS U!!11) Personally, I use Ora2. My "macro" sends a message to the person I'm ressing and to anyone using Ora2 or CTraid. I don't have a problem with mods :P I'm even writing an LO Mod page! :D With respect, --
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| Gyrik | » #283816 Wednesday February 20, 2008 at 01:57 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Kavanagh: Wait, Pally Power lets you do individual exceptions? Crap. I need to investigate that. Open up the config pane. Under each class should be a list of names of people of that class. Click (or right click) a name to set a specific blessing, and who's casting it. Makes it much, MUCH easier to give all druids wisdom, but kings the bare tank, etc. --
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| Kavanagh | » #283817 Wednesday February 20, 2008 at 02:22 | |
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Truthiness and the American Way |
I actually disagree, DW, but we'll have to agree to disagree. :) You refusing to install an addon is the same as someone refusing to make a special macro. If the majority of the raid uses the addon, who are you to ask them to make a macro when you're not even willing to download the addon they use? :) --
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| Kreallana | » #283818 Wednesday February 20, 2008 at 02:34 | |
Quantum Kittie Heavenly Healz |
quote: Originally posted by Kavanagh: If the majority of the raid uses the addon, who are you to ask them to make a macro when you're not even willing to download the addon they use? :) Well, I can actually think of one reason that requiring someone to download a rather CPU intensive addon would be unfair and that is because someone may not be running with an optimal system. It is a lot less CPU intensive for someone to change a word in a macro than it is to use an addon. Recall, this is coming from someone with over 350 addons, so...yeah - just sayin. I actually have XPerl...AND I have a rez macro. It spams Raid (which doesn't get read) does /s (which doesn't get read) and sends a whisper to the person being rez'd so that they do not zone in while I'm in the middle of casting (if I'm lucky and they read the whisper). I will not attempt to rez someone who already has someone's name assigned to them; however, I've lost count of the number of times someone else has started casting a rez on my target - while I'm in the process of rezzing and my macro has gone off with the name of the target. So...yeah. Macros and addons only go so far. The biggest thing that is needed to get from wipe to pull - attention to detail. Edit: I know a lot of people use healbot and a lot are not big on addons. Before I started really getting heavy into addons, I had exactly one mod. Xperl. I tried Pitbull and one other I can't recall the name of...and found that I just much prefer Xperl. It gives me range notifications, it tells me when people have or don't have my particular buffs (just in case I'm buffing that night) by putting a tiny icon next to their name. It lets me know when someone is getting a rez - and from whom - and says "resurrected" after the rez has completed, so I don't try to rez someone who's got one pending. Tells me who is poisoned, who is diseased, who is cursed, who has aggro (red, glowing border) and just all sorts of nifty information all with changing colours and/or a teeny tiny icon. I can adjust the scale, I can determine what I do and don't want to see, etc. I'm sure Pitbull and the others do it...just Xperl seemed much more user friendly to me. Anyway - if anyone ever wants to give it a try, let me know and I will help you with setting it up and answering whatever questions you might have. Same with Smartbuff...I've tried to do what Gyr was talking about with PP and I just can't seem to make it work :-/ But I've only used PP to go "oh pretty" and to see who's giving what to whom and am pretty nubish where that's concerned...I did try it though... --
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| Tribal | » #283845 Wednesday February 20, 2008 at 10:16 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Kavanagh: I actually disagree, DW, but we'll have to agree to disagree. :) You refusing to install an addon is the same as someone refusing to make a special macro. If the majority of the raid uses the addon, who are you to ask them to make a macro when you're not even willing to download the addon they use? :) Wow. I'll agree we'll have to disagree. But not about the posted topic. I've told you twice now that I *do* use addons. Whats more, it's been *my* philosophy that I *personally* need to go with the flow of the raid I'm attending. If the raid leader asked me to make a macro, I do. If he or she asked me to DL an addon, I do. I'm not sure who's posts you're reading, but they're not mine. Have fun, --
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| Tribal | » #283846 Wednesday February 20, 2008 at 10:21 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Kreallana: Xperl seemed much more user friendly to me. Anyway - if anyone ever wants to give it a try, let me know and I will help you with setting it up and answering whatever questions you might have. Ooohhh if only I had known months ago :P I've come to the conclusion that only REALLY smart people can use xPerl. Frankly, it made my eyes cross. The one thing your addon does that my dozens of addons DONT do is let me know when someone has been ressed. That would be awesome. I was in a Mags a while ago and the bugger went AFK without telling someone *cough* Every resser ressed him at least twice, and the raid leader wanted to know why we weren't ressing him :P In other news; I admired your UI and went to install it after wiping mine. It was B0rked :( So broken, it was, that it didn't even load up! That's another thread I suppose. Good luck! --
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| Kreallana | » #283849 Wednesday February 20, 2008 at 10:32 | |
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Quantum Kittie Heavenly Healz |
quote: Originally posted by Demonwright: In other news; I admired your UI and went to install it after wiping mine. It was B0rked :( Yeah - there is a very, very specific way you have to install it...I had to walk a friend or two through it at first. It's not 100% plug and play - but once it's setup, it works really nicely. --
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| Roberth | » #283921 Wednesday February 20, 2008 at 16:00 | |
Holy "Diver!" Priest |
Personally I use Healbot and that shows me who's getting rezzed. Still, apparently Priest rez takes longer than Shaman rez as I'll start a rez on someone charred (or burned, or sliced, or diced, or...) and a second before it goes off they're up and a alive on a Shaman. *sigh* | |
| Tribal | » #283940 Wednesday February 20, 2008 at 18:07 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Roberth: Personally I use Healbot and that shows me who's getting rezzed. Still, apparently Priest rez takes longer than Shaman rez as I'll start a rez on someone charred (or burned, or sliced, or diced, or...) and a second before it goes off they're up and a alive on a Shaman. *sigh* All resses are 10 seconds except Rebirth and except when hasting. I use healbot and I *love* it. Alas, it has faults. It doesn't monitor buffs correctly -- it never has. Having said that, I'll offer a few alternative explanations. 1. Your lagged client-side. Healbot isn't reporting/catching fast enough. 2. Your lagged server-side. This is common for spells. 3. You're not getting the report from another resser (most often the case). You could be missing a /say macro; the resser might not have a macro at all; the resser isn't using an addon; the resser's addon isn't working properly. Hope that helps! --
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