| Guthammer | #275505 Wednesday December 19, 2007 at 22:30 | |
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Reading a bit on the EJ fora and they are talking about using /stopcast. Do they mean they have a button to stop the spell mid channel and start over? --
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| Thrilas | #275510 Wednesday December 19, 2007 at 23:39 | |
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No. That was used to compensate for lag. It let your client know that the spell was done casting without waiting for the 200milli seconds to hit the server and back. I hear it is not needed anymore. I myself do not use it.
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| brunson | #275513 Wednesday December 19, 2007 at 23:51 | |
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actually yes they do what priests do when raid healing a MT is have a greater heal going off at all times. If at the end of 2-2.5 seconds the tank doesnt need it they hit the stopcasting buttton and start up another greater heal |
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| Dae | #275539 Thursday December 20, 2007 at 09:46 | |
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quote: Originally posted by brunson: actually yes they do what priests do when raid healing a MT is have a greater heal going off at all times. If at the end of 2-2.5 seconds the tank doesnt need it they hit the stopcasting buttton and start up another greater heal I had a shaman friend on my old server who did the same thing for healing. He had it bound to his mouse and swore by it for mana conservation. --
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| Alissah | #275553 Thursday December 20, 2007 at 12:52 | |
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As a healer, I wouldn't recommend tying the /stopcasting macro to the spell like a lot of dps do, simply because there is still a margin for error with stop casting and a vital heal could potentially be cancelled, but it is nice to have a /stopcasting bound to some key so that you don't have to jump/move to stop casting your spell. | |
| kaeble | #275558 Thursday December 20, 2007 at 13:46 | |
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I don't know about how it affects priests but the stopcasting macro is still useful. I use it with counter spell. I may be in a FB but if I see a mob casting a heal, I hit that hotkey or click button and it interrupts the heal. Its also useful for when you are switching targets. I still have most of my spells with the stopcasting macro.
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| brunson | #275576 Thursday December 20, 2007 at 18:23 | |
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i guess i should be a little more descriptive. i have two greater heal spells on my bar. the regular one is bound to a key the other is a macro that uses /stopcasting which i need to click with my mouse. /stopcasting /cast Greater Heal I use the stopcasting macro when healing a MT. I have a greater heal constantly queued up. If after two seconds the MT doesnt need a heal, i hit the button with the /stopcasting macro. This cancels my current heal and starts another one. That is pretty much the only time i use the /stopcasting macro. If i find i need to spam GH, i use the normal spell so it never gets canceled. |
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| KeeRissa | #275592 Thursday December 20, 2007 at 22:47 | |
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For me on boss fights, I down rank my heals unless the situation calls for full-on, full-bore Greater Heals; this can drop me down on the healing meters overall but tends to keep both my mana up and my overheal down. I also use a click-to-cast mod for all of my heals. Due to both of these things, I don't use a stopcasting macro as it would really just be overkill for me and my playstyle. I can always step to the left or right, jump or, in cases where movement is bad (flamewreath, anyone?), simply cancel the heal by hitting my ESC key on my keyboard. Blizz did put in a "fix" for the lag that made /cast spellname /stopcasting macros well-loved but their fix doesn't always work. On my mage, I don't bother with stopcasting macros - again, for my playstyle, it's overkill. As always, though, you have to play the way that works for you. |
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| Alissah | #275613 Friday December 21, 2007 at 03:22 | |
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Agreed! I downrank as well while healing, hence a stopcasting macro wouldn't do me much good, I always have a lower rank prepped and sometimes I just let it go just in case.. and if a big hit comes I start a bigger cast, then it again it depends on the boss/situation as well, but I'm weary as a healer to use a stopcasting macro, better to have the lag and waste the little bit of mana than stop a heal and tank die. But that's just my opinion and play style. | |
| Morrinh | #275637 Friday December 21, 2007 at 12:37 | |
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Stopcasting is useful for making multiple spell macros with spells that don't have a global cooldown into a 1 button macro. The most common use for this as a healer is Inner Focus... I imagine nature's swiftness can be used the same way but I've never played a Shaman. Most often I use Inner Focus with either Prayer of Healing or Greater Heal so I have macros for both. /cast Inner Focus /stopcasting /cast Prayer of Healing This will allow a one button push that casts an inner focused Prayer of Healing. Without stopcasting you usually have to wait a second or so after pushing innerfocus to start up a heal. |
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| Dae | #275670 Friday December 21, 2007 at 20:54 | |
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quote: Originally posted by KeeRissa: Blizz did put in a "fix" for the lag that made /cast spellname /stopcasting macros well-loved but their fix doesn't always work. On my mage, I don't bother with stopcasting macros - again, for my playstyle, it's overkill. As always, though, you have to play the way that works for you. I was all happy and stuff when they announced the change in the way spells were communicated to the server. It was supposed to make the /stopcasting macros on spells (to get around the latency added by the server) obsolete, but I've found that I hate it, and recently remade my old macros for my warlock's spells (I'd used them to great effect on my shadow priest's main damage spells previously). The new mechanic doesn't work the same way as /stopcasting + /cast works; you frequently still can't start a cast early in your "latency zone" (on Quartz bars) without the macro. *shakes fist exaggeratedly* Silly devs. --
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| Guthammer | #275703 Saturday December 22, 2007 at 11:52 | |
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Well depending on your definition of early I don't think I have had a problem with starting a spell in the latency zone without stopcasting. I am fairly sure I can consistently land a SW:D in the first 100 MS after mindblast. --
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